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Hi! ½ûÂþÌìÌÃs are acquired and it is hard work. You were not born speaking English. You had to learn it. When you are a child, it is much easier. As we grow older, it becomes more complicated. You have to have plenty of patience and perseverence. Immersion helps a lot, but it is a help only. This old thread, may give you some useful ideas In any case, don´t give up! Best wishes

Thank you for clarifying the matter, Charlotte.

Oh, no, playing the victim's role now! What is next??? Flip, don't try to fool us. We have seen plenty of conversations between yourself and your "chums". And the Administration are not my "chums". You are trying to insult me, but I am not going to retaliate. It is not my style. As for "paranoia"... multiple personalities is one of the symptoms of severe mental illness. In any case, I am putting you on my "ignore" list. Finito!

Thanks Flip, you have just confirmed what other members had told me. You are just one of the many identities for Karen/Esmee/Anastasia/Juliancol.... and many more. You get banned and you come back. Sometimes you adopt different identities at the same time and you answer your own comments and questions.  And I am not going to bring a Civil Action against you. You are not worth the trouble. 

No, Sprostoni. I do not know anything more than you do and, as far as I know, there is no way to know about this; however, after so many years in both the old forum and this Community, you do "know" when someone has been banned. The name and his/her posts simply "disappear" and you cannot access them.  Against what has been said and what I even thought at times, Admin watches what is said. I have not seen "censorship " as such and sometimes I would have thought that some reaction would have been warranted. As I always say, we can discuss anything and what is needed is self-moderation. Sometimes, those of us who have been here for a long time and have seen many things that have happened become a bit "edgy" when we have doubts about certain identities. You have been once at the "receiving" end. We do not mean any harm; however, we do try to defend all what has been achieved and to protect a site that is dear to our hearts. I do not think that we can be blamed for that. 

It was not a balanced opinion, based on half truths and totally derogatory. And it was not a single post. It was a monologue of doom and gloom. This is a commercial site promoting Italy. And do not twist my words to try to suit you. This same person has already caused harm to other forums. This has already been expressed by another member.

Fillide, I am glad that you are still "keeping an eye" on us and I still trust that you will rejoin us. I think that, as I have said before it is all a misunderstanding.  I cannot speak on behalf of the member who started and manages the "½ûÂþÌìÌà inheritance group", Charlotte Oliver, but I am certain that she will confirm my words. When you start a group, you have the privilege of opening membership to anyone who applies for it or you have the power to accept or refuse membership. In other words, you can make it an open or a closed group. It is obviously the decision of the "manager" of the group. It can also happen that the person has not realised this characteristic of the groupsband has made it a closed one without realising it. Over the years, I have started several groups, but I have always been careful about leaving them open. Furthermore, whenever I start a thread in those groups, I always make them "public" and not restricted to the group. The Administration, as far as I know, has never interfered in the group formation or contents. Ther has been, from time to time, some technical problems, which i could not qualify as "intervention" or "censorship". Recently, there has been a banning of a member and this obviously has been done by Admin and, having participated in discussions with that particular person, I do understand the reasons behind the banning as they were direct attacks against Italy that cannot be tolerated in a Community "for people who love all things ½ûÂþÌìÌÃ". FIllide, I would really like to see you back. Although we may not always agree on everything, I value your input and it is good to have a variety of opinions. Otherwise, this site would be very boring... 

No, it is not the truth as it is not the truth the interpretation given by Flip of the incident that led to Fillide's departure. Don't make me laugh with your claims, Fip. Only two days ago you disclosed personal details about myself and the fact that my home was in the market And you pretend that you are not Gromit. He (Paul) was the ony person from Bagni di Lucca in this forum who knew about it through an agency he works in conjunction wit and also because I had asked him for an estimate for regular cleaning of the property. So, if you are not him, you are a close associate. And this represents a breach of confidentiality. And if you were not banned before, why did you have to come back under a different identity?  I do not bully people, I do not insult members, I always try to help members and welcome them. If you suffer from an inferiority comples, it is not my problem. And it is rather obvious that you do. 

Over the years, from the times of the now defunct Forum, we have had to endure bullying, harassment, insults and inuendo from your "group", "gang", "mob"... or whatever you want to call yourselves. I do not need to mention you by name, the real members of the Community know you. We generally put up with you, treat you like "naughty children" until you go too far. Your "interpretation"of what happened with Fillide and your insinuations about "censorship" are a bit much. And I think that the Administration has been showing exceptional tolerance in your case. The door is wide open. If you do not like it here, you are free to go and create your own Forum. You did it in the past. Why do you want to come back here if you are unhappy? Just to create havoc and create a negative atmosphere? What a waste of time and energy!

Welcome back, Learning by error, following your post I do not know whether the new "L'ultra internet" offered by TIM may improve communication problems in rural communities, but I reckon that it could be an interesting development. I have not been in Italy since May, so I am not aware of the impact of the new service. On the other hand, while having coffee thismorning with some Spanish friends I was told about a new service offered by a family who owns a couple of farms in the region. They are offering a weekly delivery of a box containing some 5kg of seasonal vegetables at a subscription price of 10 € a week and I have been told that customers are extremely happy with the service. I have seen this same kind of service, direct from the producer, in San Francisco, where it is very successful. An interesting alternative for some small producers!