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Ugo, thank you for your response.

My post was solely about the risk of being quarantined on returning overland from italy to the uk.

With the way infection rates are going in europe, travelling by car or rail looks fraught with the risk of quarantine when you get to the uk.

As well as the problem with avoiding Belgium and Luxembourg (I'm not convinced that not stopping in those countries when driving through will allow you to avoid quarantine), infection rates are rising in France and the Netherlands.Ìý ÌýSwitzerland also has problems, especially in the Geneva area.... .. .. So I'm 95% certain that my trip to my holiday house near Lake Orta in September won't happen.

Travel after Brexit doesn't worry me unduly.Ìý It's in the EU's interest to allow UK residents entry, remembering that we never were inside Schengen anyway. So current arrangement will probably be reproduced after Brexit.

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Let's hope that Italy continues to control the virus asÌý well as they are now.

BelgiumÌýÌý

Anyone travelling through Belgium who arrives in UK after 0400hrsÌý on Saturday morning will have to quarantine for 2 weeks

Luxembourg

UK quarantine applies now

Ìý Ìý ÌýArea of UncertaintyÌý

The only thing that isn't clear is whether you have to quarantine if you drive straight through without anyone entering or leaving the carÌýwhatsoever.ÌýÌýÌý(Food, petrol, or toilet stops,Ìýbreakdowns, accidents etc would mean quarantine anyway)

I've heard opposite views on TV, from a Minister and a "Travel Expert"

I avoid BasleÌý as I've experiencedÌýsome serious delays there inÌýthe past.

By ducking into Germany near ColmarÌý or Mulhouse onto the autobahn you can turn off before Basle and take the dual carriageway bypassing Lorach straight into Swizerland.Ìý Never been stopped on that route, and I reckon that because of the clear roads it just as quick,Ìýif not quicker, than the busy roads through Basle.

Then straight on to LucerneÌý and the Gotthard.

Need a new route now Luxembourg has gone on the Quarantine list

Expect Belgium to go on the list soon.

I will go:-

Calais,Ìý Chalons en ChampagneÌý ÌýVitryÌýle FrancaisÌý Nancy, Colmar, into Germany,Ìý Lorach and on to Lucerne.Ìý Then Gotthard Tunnel and into Italy.jÌý

To get them to go away, you will need to trap them, and release them well away from your house - by "well" meaning 1 mile plus.

To discourage more coming, block off every entry to the house, even those at roof levelÌý remove climbing plants from the walls and remove overhanging branches.

Good luck - you'll need it

Surprisingly,Ìý it appears thatÌý if you trap dormice in the UK, you cannot release them in the wild, but have to humanely kill them.

Hopefully its different in Italy

You could try Googling to find any ex-pat forums in the area.Ìý If there are,Ìý then try to contact them.

Thanks.Ìý

Hoping to go down in September, quarantined permitting

Which route did you take, and were there any overnight stops?Ìý If so what were they like?

Would be helpful to know how your trip goes, and what things are really like in Italy.

We're hoping to drive down in mid September.Ìý