In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Thank's George. We are looking to move to Pesaro/Urbino, Pergola area. Do you know it? We thought we would rent for a couple of months or so before we buy a property.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I don't know the area as well as I should, however, Urbino seems pretty lively, plenty to get up to in the evenings, scenery great, lovely area all round, good luck to you.. :)
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
........as I gather, it seems that getting residency (a key document for buying a car) can take everal months & if you need a car un those months, it may be cheaper to get a £1000-£1500 LHD UK car (as that will suffice?!?!) to use over there and then consider buying locally.
I'd consider the cost of renting a car for several months vs the cost of buying a UK 'cheapo' LHD.
car for Italy
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 10/15/2005 - 05:34In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Can anyone help?
I bought a car in Callabria and had to do it in an ½ûÂþÌìÌà friends name. It was impossible to get fully comp and so a prang ended up in a right off. I couldn't get residency as I have a holiday home and have not moved there. Any suggestions about buying here and driving over, leaving in my garage for insurance MOT etc. or doing it all in my own name with satisfactory insurance in Italy. Thanks.
Carolyn
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Carolyn, this subject has been discussed to death on this forum, in the blue bar at the top of the page is a search button, search for "cars"+"insurance" read up on those threads... good luck :)
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[QUOTE=Carolyn]Can anyone help?
I bought a car in Callabria and had to do it in an ½ûÂþÌìÌà friends name. It was impossible to get fully comp and so a prang ended up in a right off. I couldn't get residency as I have a holiday home and have not moved there. Any suggestions about buying here and driving over, leaving in my garage for insurance MOT etc. or doing it all in my own name with satisfactory insurance in Italy. Thanks.
Carolyn[/QUOTE]
You don't need residency you just need a domicile - it is the same discourse we had on this forum with Banca Posta. I found out this information from going to [url]www.magaglio.com[/url] where you can print off whichever declaration (dichiarazione) fits your status. The problem then is to convince the "jobsworths" at your local ACI of this.
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[QUOTE=sdoj]You don't need residency you just need a domicile - it is the same discourse we had on this forum with Banca Posta. I found out this information from going to [url]www.magaglio.com[/url] where you can print off whichever declaration (dichiarazione) fits your status. The problem then is to convince the "jobsworths" at your local ACI of this.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info though my ½ûÂþÌìÌà isn't good enough to understand the site
and which bit I need. Have you managed to buy a car and insure it? Any indication of which bit I should print off. I have a house in my name and a fiscal code. I pay Enel etc. Also what type of insurance gives the best cover?
Thanks for your time
Carolyn
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[QUOTE=GeorgeS]Carolyn, this subject has been discussed to death on this forum, in the blue bar at the top of the page is a search button, search for "cars"+"insurance" read up on those threads... good luck :)[/QUOTE]
Most of the discussion seems to be over purchase which was not so much of a problem as insurance. Have you managed? I'd appreciate any pointers.
Thanks
Carolyn
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Carolyn, yes, I managed, by using the insurance company used by the previous owners of the house, their whole family uses these brokers... The standard policy here, in Italy, currently, covers little more than the damage you do to other cars, and medical cover for PASSENGERS in your car, There may be comprehensive policies about, but, they will probably be horrendously expensive, there is also a feeling on the board that GB insurers now do in fact cover EU state use on their policies, so, you could investigate that avenue, or, if you are, errm over 50, try Saga.
Everything I have written would have been thrown up by using the search I suggested BTW....
Over 50
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 10/18/2005 - 03:39In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Getting a benefit this time! Saga gave us a great deal. We are bringing our UK car out to Puglia until we get residency and can buy an ½ûÂþÌìÌà car. Saga quoted / sold us fully comp insurance for £175 and includes the whole of Europe.
Our original UK insurance was more expensive to start with and we could only bring the car to Italy for 90 days in any one policy year. We would have had to pay an additional premium for that too.
So if you're over 50, definitely go SAGA
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=GeorgeS]Your small items will work OK here, just change the plugs, remember though that the light bulbs here tend to be the ES type, so if you use BC aither bring bulbs with you, or be prepared to throw the fittings out when the bulbs blow..
Use the search facility at top of page for info. on car purchase, generally much much easier to buy here, but you will need residency which can take up to four months, so, maybe buying a cheapie LHD in GB, then either simply taking it off the road or even trading in when you are able to buy newer ½ûÂþÌìÌà car could be the best option, you could not keep the UK car indefinitely on the road here, you would eventually have to go through the ½ûÂþÌìÌà registration system, long winded, difficult and costly... Where you moving to ? Good Luck. :)[/QUOTE]
George, I am sure you have seen my postings but you still inform people that they need residency in order to buy a car. What about the many people who live between two EC countries? Why can't they have a car at their holiday home in Italy? This is what I have writtten previously:
You don't need residency you just need a domicile. I found out this information from going to [url]www.magaglio.com[/url] where you can print off whichever declaration (dichiarazione) fits your status. The problem then is to convince local ACI of this.
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=sdoj]George, I am sure you have seen my postings but you still inform people that they need residency in order to buy a car. What about the many people who live between two EC countries? Why can't they have a car at their holiday home in Italy? This is what I have writtten previously:
You don't need residency you just need a domicile. I found out this information from going to [url]www.magaglio.com[/url] where you can print off whichever declaration (dichiarazione) fits your status. The problem then is to convince local ACI of this.[/QUOTE]
Because, in a totally non confrontational way... That is what it takes here...
You are advising people with little ½ûÂþÌìÌà to go into their ACI office and argue with the staff that they can make a declaration, the other problem here, will also arise if / when you try to get Insurance, should you be trying to obtain insurance from an ½ûÂþÌìÌà company. I am not prepared to get into an argument with you, or anyone else over this, but, as you must be aware, the systems here take aeons to change, for most people, most of the time, to resolve the problem of car ownership currently, they will need residency, they shouldn't, but they will......
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[QUOTE=GeorgeS]Because, in a totally non confrontational way... That is what it takes here...
You are advising people with little ½ûÂþÌìÌà to go into their ACI office and argue with the staff that they can make a declaration, the other problem here, will also arise if / when you try to get Insurance, should you be trying to obtain insurance from an ½ûÂþÌìÌà company. I am not prepared to get into an argument with you, or anyone else over this, but, as you must be aware, the systems here take aeons to change, for most people, most of the time, to resolve the problem of car ownership currently, they will need residency, they shouldn't, but they will......[/QUOTE]
And you are advising people that they need residency when they don't.
The system has changed but it is the enaction of that system that is dragging behind. If you think people capable of buying a house in Italy with little ½ûÂþÌìÌà then don't you think they could manage the purchase of a car?
As with the house, a starting point might be to ask for the vendor's help in dealing with officialdom. Insurance is another matter and unlike ACI they will be glad to take your money...my advice here as with all insurance is check that you have the cover you want and make sure that the EC insurance company know all the relevant circumstances so that they can't renague.
btw "not prepared to get into an argument" is a phrase often used by argumentative types just as "some of my best friends" is used by bigots - people recognise both for what they are immediately.
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BUT, I am not prepared to get into an argument, honestly, you are correct in everything you say, I am not qualified to make any entry on this subject and will not add to this thread...
In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
[QUOTE=GeorgeS]BUT, I am not prepared to get into an argument, honestly, you are correct in everything you say, I am not qualified to make any entry on this subject and will not add to this thread...[/QUOTE]
Bravo. Most eloquently put.
Your small items will work OK here, just change the plugs, remember though that the light bulbs here tend to be the ES type, so if you use BC aither bring bulbs with you, or be prepared to throw the fittings out when the bulbs blow..
Use the search facility at top of page for info. on car purchase, generally much much easier to buy here, but you will need residency which can take up to four months, so, maybe buying a cheapie LHD in GB, then either simply taking it off the road or even trading in when you are able to buy newer ½ûÂþÌìÌà car could be the best option, you could not keep the UK car indefinitely on the road here, you would eventually have to go through the ½ûÂþÌìÌà registration system, long winded, difficult and costly... Where you moving to ? Good Luck. :)