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Errr, that's a new one on me, normally you would apply for your Permesso, from the districts Questura after you arrive, generally within 2 weeks of arrival, in my case it took them three months to produce it, you will need, passports, birth certificates, marriage licence, a couple of copies of all of the above and four pasport photographs, and, either bank statements, or a declaration that you have money (I think they wanted proof of 8000 euro per person), and they also wanted proof of pension in my case, you also need to be excessively pleasant, as each officer has their own priority, and they sometimes take great joy in asking for multiple copies of the one form you haven't copied. But, I have never known of a carrier asking for it in advance. Ohhh, I am assuming that you are a citizen of the EU... Ooops, you will also need proof of medical cover, form E111 in my case.

The permesso di soggiorno can only be obtained in Italy. When your shipment arrives you will have to provide your PdiS. Many times they will accept the cedolino (receipt) from when you apply as they know it takes time.

You are required to apply within 8 days (business days) of arrival in Italy.

We came over in April this year (2005) and we didn't have to provide the Permisso do Sogiorno for customs..if you are from UK which firm are you using ? Make sure they are not coming thru Switzerland 'cos i have heard that may involve customs.....anyone else heard this ??

As George and Cristina said , you can only get the permisso do Soggiorno from your local Questura and although we didn't get ours until we had been here a while ( which wasn't a problem incidently) it took a month.

It was quite a hassle really as the Questura, although supposedly operating a 'take a ticket' system , was actually chaos. Some took tickets, some didn't and basically those in the know just wandered in and went straight to the desk !!! Allow a morning at least for the first visit when they fill in all the forms and take all your documents and issue the receipt. As george says take everything you need.
Picking up the official documents didn't prove a problem for us as I just grabbed the first official (a very nice lady -actually they were all nice and helpful..just took ages on 1st visit) as soon as we arrived as we could see no-one was going to wait for their ticket to come up.

After about 10 minutes a little chap just shouted thru the door 'permisso di soggiorno'...and everyone rushed in !!!! no queue nothing !!!! Luckily i saw ours was on the top , so we just went to the front !!! In and out and official all in 15 minutes !!!!

Obviously if you are not from an EU country then probably what cristina says is more accutate...she has a good site ( mainly american) which would probably be of help for non-EU member states.

I came in through Switzerland, beautiful drive down, problem with the customs, but, as he had changed, ready to go home, Customs man simply explained that he couldn't allow me in if I said that I had anything less than one year old in the back of the van, naturally, I had nothing less than one year old, except for a puppy, for which we had the correct documentation, so, no problem. But, would recommend anyone to avoid this route if they can, ohh, unless the vehicle has a special sticker on the windscreen for the current year, you have to buy Swiss road tax too, about 30 euro.

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We came to Italy via the United States, (that is our furniture which was shipped to Naples), we came back to the U.K for 6 months and then out to Italy. The removal firm which was ½ûÂþÌìÌÃ/American was very clear on shipments- no need for a Permesso Di Sogornio.
We only had to pay a small customs payment, but this was because our furniture came from the US.
We have never been asked to show our PdiS to any removal company, nor our residency card, and it has been 6 months since we moved here. I think your removal company may have got some things mixed up, or may not be familiar with EU shipments. I would check very carefully the route.

Good luck on the move.

[QUOTE=GeorgeS], either bank statements, or a declaration that you have money (I think they wanted proof of 8000 euro per person), and they also wanted proof of pension in my case, you also need to be excessively pleasant, as each officer has their own priority, and they sometimes take great joy in asking for multiple copies of the one form you haven't copied. But, I have never known of a carrier asking for it in advance. Ohhh, I am assuming that you are a citizen of the EU... Ooops, you will also need proof of medical cover, form E111 in my case.[/QUOTE]

I am a little worried about this. I will be arriving on the 25th August with family and will have to get Permesso di Soggiornos for us all. I am continuing to work as a freelancer over the internet whilst I am in Italy so will have an income but I don't have 8000 euro per person (Does that mean 32000 Euro for two adults and two children?). I have paid rent in advance for seven months and we have credit card limits that could feasibly give us 20000 euro, plus 2 or 3 thousand euro in cash readily to hand. I can also show outstanding invoices for work and my accounts - but isn't this getting complicated? And with little ½ûÂþÌìÌà will I make myself understood? Could we find ourselves on the next plane home if we can't provide proof of enough cash?

I just Googled and came across the following:

"When applying for a residence permit, you must produce a valid identity card or passport, three passport photos, and, if
expressly asked, a medical certificate. Depending on your status during your stay in Italy (employee, job-seeker,
self-employed, retired, not working, student), you will also be required to produce various documents:
- Employees must produce confirmation from their employer that they have been hired or a certificate of employment.
- Persons setting up in a self-employed capacity must provide evidence of their status, such as membership of a
professional or trade body, a VAT number or registration on a trade register.
- Service providers must produce supporting evidence.
[B]- Employees and the self-employed may not be asked for evidence of their resources.[/B]"

So, according to this, if you are an EEC citizen, self employed or employed then they are not allowed to ask for evidence of resources.

It is obviously different if you are retired.