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Search the site hazy, much has been written about charges, generally drugs for chronic conditions are free, eg diabetes, thyroid conditions, but I think and will stand corrected 65yrs old is when another set of rules kicks in. usually charges are minimal, and this covers the whole spectrum of health care (if you are eligable for it) and this is especially good in Marche.

Much the same across Europe..............if you are below the age of 65, you pay a sliding charge.....if a 'critical' illness...............free, other items you pay. It seems wrong to me as if you were living in the UK they would be free from the age of 60 (I think?)........but across the EU things change ( I totally disagree but that's the inconsistency of the EU..let  us know how you get on please? S

But much of the point here is that we are not living in the UK, if we had liked it so much we would not have moved to Italy to live. Agree that it would be helpful to have a unified system across the EU, but we (in our position) are entitled to what our fellow ��������s receive, and I am still trying to work that out as there are inconsistancies, still a learning process after nearly 5 years!

I was asked by sprostini to keep the forum informed. Here is a reply i got from the pension service dealing with Brits living abroad:- The form E121  will give health cover on the same terms as a �������� National. This means that whatever a person in Italy has to pay for you would also have to pay for. However, I am unable to advise you exactly what is covered under the form E121/S1 in Italy. It is a matter for the �������� authorities to determine exactly what level of healthcare you may be entitled to under �������� legislation, I would advise you contact your local office in the area where you live for this information. If you wished to obtain treatment or medication that was not available under the �������� state scheme, you would be responsible for the costs. I can confirm that the �������� government do claim expenses from the UK for your health care in Italy. This confirms no free prescriptions for women until age 65, so I'll just have to stay healthy until then!

Thanks for the update hazy, I know that the quality of health care here in Italy can vary from region to region, which may inform some when a decision is made on where to live. In Marche I find it excellent, and the small fee involved in seeing a specialist is balanced out by the very short waiting period, in my case 24hrs. I am so out of touch with the Btitish NHS that I dont know how this compares, but doubt that I would have had the same level of service, plus here (at Fermo hospital) the ratio of staff to patients is much higher and the wards immaculately clean. Not our experience in the UK when mother in law was in hospital.  

The right to free prescriptions in the UKis not determined by the ages of 60 or 65 any longer. For example, I will not become elegible for my state pension until the age of 63. Therefore many benefits that a few years ago would have kicked in at age 60 are not now open to me until 63 under new rules. Some of my colleagues, also female, will not get state pension until they are 64. This is the gradual harmonisation by the last government here to equal up to 65 with males. Unfortunately, this will soon be old hat as the talk is that there will be no upper retirement age which will probably mean that the state pension age is likely also to go up. So only those who came under the old 60 age group for state pension will be able to claim things at that age. This will also rise to 65 - for now. Also discussions are afoot that will mean that state pensions in future will be determined by a basic amount which can be added to determined by how many years you worked and paid into the state. Many people have company pensions, which can be accessed at the age of 60. This has nothing to do with the state, but comes under the jurisdiction of your pension company. Since 2008, most of these are 65 for new members. I have the right to collect my public sector state of the art pension at 60, all £ 300 quid a month after 30 years. But it is no use to me as I cannot collect the state one until 3 years later. Public sector Trade Unions are driving the fight against these changes but at the rate that redundancies are happening , there won't be many of us left to fight. This may have some bearing on what the Goverment will pay other EU countries for your health care. So to sum up, the UK will have many different 'payouts' at different ages. To confuse things further, in Scotland we have a lower prescription charge than other parts of the UK. This will decrease to no charge at all for prescriptions if SNP get back in here. It will be different for, England, wales and N Ireland. So we no longer have a unified UK system either! What all this means in agreements with other EU countries I cannot say. All I know is that we have a confusing situation ourselves which is hard for us to understand let alone trying to get to grips with other countries. And just like they cannot dictate to us what to do, nor can we.

Thanks for the summary Moruzzo, it makes for bleak reading, I am thankful I just fall within the old rules, seems like one is required to work until you drop and then try to survive on a meagre pension.

A good wheeze would be to start stockpiling the ventolin and steroid inhalers now Lorraine!

My Wife uses an inhaler from time to time with mild asthma, and she gets them free. Now she is �������� but a freind of ours who is English does also get hers free as she is entitled to �������� Health care by transfering her entitlement from the UK. The type of inhaler here is slightly different from the ones in the UK (Brown and Blue caps), but talk to your doctor and he will test you and ensure you get the correct doses.

We pay 4 euros for Ventolin(blue ones same type as UK) from our pharmacy it's not dear at all.

If you suffer from asthma and you travel to the USA take a few inhalers with you. The cost there is highway robbery!!! Look at this: o The average cost of one reliever inhaler (Atrovent) is $114 o The average cost of one combination inhaler (Advair) is $233 o The average cost of one preventer inhaler (Flovent) is $151 o The average cost of one month of Xolair injections is $1000 You cannot afford to be an asthma sufferer in the USA unless you have the right type of insurance to help. How fortunate we are in the EU!!!!!

America the land of the free eh? Unfortunately unrestrained capitalism has it's downside, especially if you are "poor", and there's a lot of people in that category, shame really for such a wealthy country.

Thanks for all your advice, makes interesting reading and not as worrying either. When in Majorca a few year ago they wanted to charge me 79 euro for a ventolin inhaler!! Glad I chose Italy to live and not Majorca or the USA

That surprises me Lorraine, generally Spain is pretty cheap for medicine, I bought betnovate cream  for 3 euro a tube, when it was more like 7 euro in Italy. you were certainly being ripped off as they say..

You get it over the counter in Spain and it costs about 5 euros. I can't understand why they wanted to charge you that much in Majorca... Some one was trying to rip you off. Basic medications cost pretty much the same throughout Western Europe, no huge differences. The USA is a different case. There, if you are not insured, you die of a heart attack when you see the prices. Lorraine, when you start going to your health centre in Italy they would include in your medical history those medications that you would regularly need and list you as a chronic sufferer, which should entitle you to receive them free of charge. I think that there is a strong possibility that they could also put you as a dependant on your husband's file, particularly if you are not working. I am not completely certain, but worth enquiring about it. If you don't ask.... you will not be told.

Thanks for that Gala! I will certainly be asking that question

Prescriptions in England and Wales rising in April to £7.40  -  Prescriptions in Scotland going down to ZERO! I live in Scotland. Maybe in Italy there are regional differences the same as us. Something to be mindful of, as previously stated, when folk are choosing where to stay.

Free prescriptions but crap weather, hopefully I'll need less medicine when I get regular doses of sunshine! (I'll continue to stockpile while I can mind)

There certainly are regional differences as to what is offered in the state �������� Health System, not sure this extends to medication but differences do exist. Each individual ASUR should be able to advise if your particular needs are covered. In all these discussions, it is also worth pointing out that even once you are entitled to treatment under the �������� state system you become entitled to receive the same treatment that an �������� would receive, it does not entitle you to receive a UK style treatment in Italy! It may seem obvious,  but we have come across folk with pre-existing medical conditions who were covered for all their needs in the UK but who found that in Italy some aspects of their treatment were only covered privately. As they had registered with the �������� system, they were no longer eligible to receive treatment under the UK system, which needless to say caused them several headaches and much stress. So check before you make an ongoing committment! On a related issue, in the 'old' forum there was also a longish post which highlighted the difference between the 2 countries in the case of social/personal care needs if illness causes a loss of independance. Families are expected to take on the role of carer in Italy or to pay for private care- this could be a problem if you have no family around and/or limited income.

You are right Bunterboy. I too will be stockpiling.