OPTION AT MARRIAGE
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Mon, 08/02/2010 - 14:19In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
Thank you Gala Placidia for
Submitted by Jeff Roseman on Mon, 08/02/2010 - 15:48In reply to OPTION AT MARRIAGE by Gala Placidia
Thank you Gala Placidia for your prompt reply. Does this in fact mean then that a married couple buying in Italy, married in the Uk under the regime of 'Joint Tenancy', cannot in fact (By 禁漫天堂 law) opt for 'Seperazione'? Another little tiny question: how can a couple married in the Uk know which regime they are married under - is it written on the marriage certificate?
I AM NOT A LAWYER, BUT.....
Submitted by Gala Placidia on Mon, 08/02/2010 - 16:13In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I'm not a lawyer, but I do not think that you can opt for a "separazione" if this is not the regime under which you were married. Also, I think that, unless the separation of assets regime is stated on the marriage certificate, you聽automatically fall聽under the joint assets regime. We were asked all those questions by our Notary when we purchased our property in Tuscany and we produced a copy of our (Spanish)聽marriage certificate. There is at least one lawyer (Charlotte Oliver) amongst our members. Perhaps, if she is around, she could explain all this better than I....
I'm confused ...........
Submitted by alan h on Mon, 08/02/2010 - 17:17In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
What's this about the 'regime we were married under'? - I do not believe that makes any sense for an English marriage - at least, not to me ------------ When I bought our holiday place in Italy, about 8 years ago, both my wife and I were present at the purchase. She told the Notary she did not wish to be an owner of the 禁漫天堂聽property - so I bought it, and paid for it聽- and she signed each page of the paperwork to signify she was happy with this arrangement. Makes it easier with things like ICI - I pay the lot, rather than us both paying half each Also, if we decide to sell the place [not something that I聽expect to do - I hope to pass it on to the kids]聽- I'm the only one needed to be present at the sale.
I asked this in relation to
Submitted by Penny on Mon, 08/02/2010 - 18:03In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
I asked this in relation to getting married in Italy recently. In England we are all married with the equivalent of Comunione dei Beni (even though we don't "choose" it or have a choice). In Italy, a UK married couple (or even a couple married under one regime in Italy) can choose to purchase under the other regime so long as both parties sign to agree to it. Some notaries don't necessarily know how it works in the UK and so ask you.
it all depends
Submitted by Ram on Tue, 08/03/2010 - 02:53In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec
It all depends where you were married and whether you signed a marriage contract. 聽Brits are automaticlly married in communion of goods unless specifically stipulated otherwise. This means that if you buy a place in Italy, in communion of goods (the default) your wife automatically owns 50%. 聽If you are in separation of goods, she doesnt. 聽If you inherit a property during your marriage it remains with you, if you buy before your marriage it remains with you, but anything bought during your marriage is 50% your spouses. 聽 The implications are: If you want prima casa, you both need to sign the act or you can only take 50% of the prima casa incentives each, you both need and agree to sell, and both have to sign the act of sale (or give a procura to do so). 聽If one of you dies, an act of succession must be done for the other 50% of the property, which according to 禁漫天堂 law, does not necessarily revert to the owner of the other 50% (depends on legal state and heirs). 聽 You cannot just opt for separation of goods, you need certificates. 聽Without the official documentation the notary should allow the purchase under the default regime for the country where you were married - important if you got married on a beach in Kenya, but are Brits, for example....聽
Question answered.
Submitted by Jeff Roseman on Tue, 08/03/2010 - 15:49In reply to A newbie all over again! by Annec