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I'm hoping to visit Italy for an extended period, 3 months to a year and hope to find a (1) furnished apartment with (2) utilties such as gas, electric, etc.

Thu, 07/16/2015 - 11:58

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Sun, 07/19/2015 - 11:46

Thank you for the considered replies, particularly that of Catlama inserting doses of reality into this.  As to me I have made extended stays as a vacationer in Italy before; three months one time and several trips of two weeks.  I am aware of the visa requirements, hence three months or a year, the difference being the permesso.  You're right about not speaking ½ûÂþÌìÌÃ.  A "one per week" class hasn't done it for me.  I thought an extended stay in Italy, say three months or a year, would help me to learn.  I am confused about the "what you are getting yourself into" thing re renting.  Unless this is somehow wildly different than the U.S. you sign a contract, pay your rent, and turn on the utlities.  The latter seems like a pain for a non-½ûÂþÌìÌà speaker hence the hope of finding "utenze incluse".  Am I missing something? The flying back and forth (around 1500 USD a pop) is daunting as is signing a rental contract for something I may not be permitted to live in; I tend to take these things seriously.  However as this happens every day it must be do-able.

Sat, 07/18/2015 - 17:22

Thanks for all the above, particularly the phrases.  I'm lookng in Venice at the moment and have been using "immobiliare dot it".  Quite a few rental listings there, even on the core islands, seem quite affordable.  (Suspiciously so?)  I was aware of the length of stay and visa requirements, also the "chicken and egg" problem with the rental such that I have to have a rental contract for an apartment before I know if I will be permitted to stay in it.  I was hoping to avoid flying to Italy to secure a rental, flying back to secure a permesso, and then returning to Italy.  Is it possible to secure the permesso in Italy? Does the permesso have to be renewed annually or is there such a thing as a "permanent permesso"?